#geowebchat transcript, 20 August 2013


@mappingmashups Aug 20, 10:41am Reminder: #geowebchat today about teaching webmapping tools and techniques in non-academic contexts. Join us at 12pm PT, 3pm ET, 8pm BST!

@skorasaurus Aug 20, 11:07am come talk about what #geoweb meetups around USA like @opengeocle are doing @ 3pm EST @ today’s #geowebchat

@AndrewShears Aug 20, 11:34am Not going to make it to #geowebchat today. Looking forward to the transcript though.

@skorasaurus Aug 20, 11:56am what sites do peeps use to follow the #geowebchat again ? (I need to finally bookmark them!)

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 11:56am Starting in a few minutes: #geowebchat about “geoweb pedagogy outside the academy”. Join in! Try tweetchat.com/room/geowebchat to follow along.

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 11:56am Another one to try is twitterfall.com for #geowebchat.

@lyzidiamond Aug 20, 12:01pm Excited for #geowebchat!

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:03pm Welcome everybody to #geowebchat!

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:04pm As usual, if you want to ignore us, see if your twitter client lets you mute the #geowebchat hashtag. But we hope you won’t!

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:04pm #geowebchat-on pedagogy &#neogeoweb – I thought all instruction outside the academy was DIY like #codeacademy

@JacqInTheBooks Aug 20, 12:05pm Hi all! Excited for today’s #geowebchat! Pedagogy outside the academy is right up my alley. Been reading on geospatial citizenship/literacy

@Geoteq Aug 20, 12:05pm Yo, greetings from Brazil. In listening. =) #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:05pm Or is the today’s #geowebchat ab how academics can use outside sources for #geoweb instruction?

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:06pm @re_sieber We might include things like #codeacademy and MOOCs as geoweb pedagogy outside the academy, but it’s not only that #geowebchat

@JacqInTheBooks Aug 20, 12:06pm I’m still collecting #geowebchat tweets for my PhD research- informallearningonline.webs.com Msg me w/ any questions or if u want your posts excluded

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:06pm …and we’ve already had one chat recently about MOOCs, so I’d like to talk about other alternative spaces and contexts #geowebchat

@andrewbt Aug 20, 12:06pm Listening to #geowebchat after @mapadelphia told me about it!

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:07pm @re_sieber I think academics inevitably have to use sources outside of academic ones, because there are few sources otherwise #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:07pm @JacqInTheBooks Today’s #geowebchat could be ab the literacies required for #neogeoweb

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:08pm But I have a personal interest now in thinking about teaching/learning forums totally outside academia… specifically #maptime! #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:09pm I think #citsci initiatives like Crowdsourcing, for the Birds nytimes.com/2013/08/20/sci… count as geoweb pedagogy outside academy #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:09pm Quick def’n of #maptime: a recurring learning and hack night we started hosting at @stamen. Inspired by classes at hackerspaces #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:10pm So we have started @MaptimeSF, and @skorasaurus has started one in Cleveland, and there are a few other nascent #maptimes. #geowebchat

@lyzidiamond Aug 20, 12:11pm @mappingmashups What is the structure of @MaptimeSF at this point? #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:11pm At #maptime people can bring their own projects & ask Qs, or work on predefined lessons or projects if they don’t have their own #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:11pm Literacies for #neogeoweb: geography/loc, domain (eg birds), user interface #geowebchat. Coding?

@mapadelphia Aug 20, 12:11pm We’re looking to get an open & inclusive geo / spatial meetup going in Philadelphia- Any tips, tricks, advice, cautionary tales? #geowebchat

@alyssapwright Aug 20, 12:11pm we’re at the very beginnings of brining #maptime to NYC in coordination #geonyc and #betanyc cc @noneck #geowebchat

@skorasaurus Aug 20, 12:12pm reason started 1 in #cle – there’s little/no #geoweb (or civic hacking) culture outside the workplace #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:12pm @lyzidiamond So far we’ve only had 4 or 5 maptimes, and they vary a lot. But the idea is to be low-key and somewhat unstructured #geowebchat

@alyssapwright Aug 20, 12:13pm i think it’s the weekly meeting up that will make it sustainable. and at the same time who can commit once a week? #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:13pm We are trying to make it very inviting for newbies. Luckily enough experts show up to answer questions and guide the learning. #geowebchat

@JacqInTheBooks Aug 20, 12:13pm @re_sieber I agree & a very interesting project. I know someone involved & she learnt a lot about both birds & the #geoweb #geowebchat 1/2

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:14pm @re_sieber Even #coding can be a part of it, if that’s what ppl wanna learn. We introduced a few people to github last time. #geowebchat

@lyzidiamond Aug 20, 12:14pm Geo students at UWisconsin started a group with presentations + a blog to share, which is now giscollective.org. (1/2) #geowebchat

@lyzidiamond Aug 20, 12:14pm I think a wiki or blog to go along with the meetups can be good for those who can’t attend each week to learn what they missed. #geowebchat

@JacqInTheBooks Aug 20, 12:14pm @re_sieber Certainly has increased her #geoweb literacy through the project as you mentioned! #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:14pm @skorasaurus Disagree. There’s plenty of civic hacking ab #opendata. Also #OSM #geowebchat All hinges, though, on how you define #geoweb

@bethschechter Aug 20, 12:15pm @mappingmashups @lyzidiamond so, we’re learning that unstructured is good for some, but that others need structure
#geowebchat

@lyzidiamond Aug 20, 12:15pm Oh yeah, followers of mine who don’t care about #geowebchat + think I’m being super annoying can mute the tag!

@bethschechter Aug 20, 12:15pm @mappingmashups @lyzidiamond so with this in mind, we’re trying to think of ways to incorporate both. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:15pm @lyzidiamond We have a chaotic blog here: maptimesf.tumblr.com and a sparse github repo/wiki here: github.com/maptime/maptime #geowebchat

@lyzidiamond Aug 20, 12:16pm @mappingmashups I also love that @MaptimeSF works on group projects, so progress is tracked on github! #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 20, 12:16pm @mappingmashups @lyzidiamond one idea is to have ongoing structured activities in one room, and free project times in another #geowebchat

@mapadelphia Aug 20, 12:16pm @glenfarrelly Exactly. We want to include hobbyists & experts alike. Maybe partnering with a few other meetups to get going? #geowebchat

@skorasaurus Aug 20, 12:16pm @re_sieber – nationally, I agree, although not so much in #cleveland yet. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:17pm @skorasaurus @re_sieber It’s true that #maptimeSF should be considered in the #SF context: we have a surfeit of geo events… #geowebchat

@alyssapwright Aug 20, 12:17pm @mapadelphia @glenfarrelly we’ve been trying to partner with the @codeforamerica brigade in NYC through #BetaNYC #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:18pm @skorasaurus @re_sieber …but very few that are accessible to newbies. #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:18pm @bethschechter @mappingmashups @lyzidiamond Negotiating level of structure&coding skills @ meetups crucial 4 sustained interest #geowebchat

@andrewbt Aug 20, 12:18pm What makes @MaptimeSF different than a #cfabrigade meetup? The explicit geo focus, or something else? #geowebchat

@skorasaurus Aug 20, 12:18pm .@mapadelphia we hold our bi-weekly mtgs w/ @codeforamerica ‘s #summit cnty/akron bridgade. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:19pm So, we’d love people to start #maptime in other cities, but if your city has no #geo events at all maybe you need a diff format? #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 20, 12:19pm @lyzidiamond more documentation is totally needed! it just ends up being a looooong day. I’ve fallen asleep writing blog posts #geowebchat

@lyzidiamond Aug 20, 12:19pm On navigating variable skill level in meetups: PDX Python has a beginner table w/ mentors to help get folks started/answer q’s. #geowebchat

@lyzidiamond Aug 20, 12:19pm @mappingmashups Why would a different format be necessary? #geowebchat

@skorasaurus Aug 20, 12:20pm @mappingmashups we’ve had bi-monthly mtgs consisting of instructional presentations #geowebchat

@spara Aug 20, 12:20pm @mappingmashups What about #geobreakfast? #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:20pm @lyzidiamond I’m asking all of you! But like in @mapadelphia’s case, maybe you’re thinking of something more like #geoDC… #geowebchat

@lyzidiamond Aug 20, 12:21pm @mappingmashups What is #geodc all about? #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:21pm @lyzidiamond …something with organized presentations every month, instead of workshop-style? They serve diff needs. #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:21pm @lyzidiamond @mappingmashups on diff format for #geo-Depends on how much geog (ie geometry&topology) is important 4data handling #geowebchat

@lyzidiamond Aug 20, 12:22pm Another thing PDX Python does: 2nd Tuesday presentation night, 4th Tuesday hack night. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:22pm Even though #maptime is more workshop-style, we hope to keep including brief presentations too. We’ve done “5 min definitions” #geowebchat

@JessiBreen Aug 20, 12:22pm @mappingmashups @lyzidiamond And beer. #geodc is short talks, maps and beer. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:23pm @spara Yes, every city should also have a #geobreakfast and a #geobeers/#geoHH. #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:23pm @lyzidiamond @mappingmashups How #geo is different: depends on how good cartography is of platform. Can’t take that as given #geowebchat

@alyssapwright Aug 20, 12:23pm @andrewbt @MaptimeSF in NYC we’re trying to combine the two, but bringing explicit spatial training and expertise into the mix. #geowebchat

@lyzidiamond Aug 20, 12:23pm I kinda like the idea of a hack night with a built-in mechanism for lightning talks. Every 30 minutes bell rings, someone talks. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:24pm @re_sieber Maybe because I used “hack” you are thinking that civic hacking is the focus? I think for us the mapiness is focus. #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 20, 12:24pm @andrewbt @MaptimeSF #maptimesf is geared toward coding beginners, and there’s a digital #geo + dataviz focus. #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:25pm @lyzidiamond @mappingmashups How #geo is different: depends on how well ppl understand aggregation, gerrymandering #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:25pm @re_sieber … so it’s like a hackerspace Arduino circuit-hacking night, just with maps instead. Less like a hackathon #geowebchat

@lyzidiamond Aug 20, 12:26pm The challenge is pulling in devs who want to learn geo AND geo folks who want to learn coding. Can it be symbiotic? #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:26pm @re_sieber But of course within the maphacking framework, we have plenty of activist motivation. Such as the Water Atlas project #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 20, 12:26pm @lyzidiamond so, yes, that can work. It’s important to make sure people who are there to learn and work have the space to do so #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:28pm @mappingmashups there are literacies needed for Arduino & literacies needed for #geo Are we talking ab who convenes hackspc? #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:28pm @lyzidiamond We also have lots of people who are neither devs nor geo people. #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:29pm @lyzidiamond ‘devs who want to learn geo AND geo folks who want to learn coding. Can it be symbiotic?’ #geowebchat Maybe parasitic? ;-)

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:31pm @re_sieber The “conveners” set agenda & frame, but also provides expertise for assistance. …but experts aren’t strictly reqd. #geowebchat

@geothinkca Aug 20, 12:32pm Hi #geowebchat! So just joined and not sure where the conversation is — are we talking ab outside resources 4 academics to learn #geoweb?

@alyssapwright Aug 20, 12:32pm @re_sieber i think it can be symbiotic. but it’s also goes beyond learning to building things with complementary skills. #geowebchat

@vtcraghead Aug 20, 12:32pm @mappingmashups @lyzidiamond Such people exist? I though we all fell somewhere on the continuum :) #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:32pm @re_sieber I could imagine a bunch of map lovers gathering to self-teach from books (& our #maptime materials) w/out experts. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:33pm @geothinkca We’re talking about spaces to teach and learn the geoweb outside academia. #geowebchat

@spara Aug 20, 12:33pm @mappingmashups @re_sieber I think this is the right approach #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:33pm @mappingmashups Interesting ab activist motivation in maphacking-what drives them? Water? Coding? Counter-mapping? Maps? Beer? #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:34pm @geothinkca Which brings up a question we haven’t addressed head-on. WHY have non-academic venues at all? Opinions? #geowebchat

@Geoteq Aug 20, 12:34pm @re_sieber It depends of kind of “Geo”. There is the hard geo and there is the Geo u can use data and tools to create something. #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:35pm @alyssapwright “goes beyond learning to building things with complementary skills” YES. Latter is something we academics forget #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:35pm @re_sieber Maps are fun and all, but to give up your evening to learn maps, it helps to have another (activist?) motive. #geowebchat

@skorasaurus Aug 20, 12:35pm @mappingmashups there’s innovation, collaboration, culture that exists outside the strict workplace and academia. #geowebchat

@vtcraghead Aug 20, 12:35pm @mappingmashups @geothinkca We could probably coax an opinion about that out of @PostPostGIS #geowebchat #theacademicsystemiscoopted

@JessiBreen Aug 20, 12:35pm @mappingmashups Wait, WHY non-academic venues is really a question? #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:36pm @alyssapwright And I’ll be at Columbia during the Fall (sabbatical!) so maybe we can chat more about this #geowebchat

@Geoteq Aug 20, 12:36pm @re_sieber hard Geo: Geodesy, Remote Sensing, Cartography Math, GNSS treatment signal, etc.
#geowebchat

@lyzidiamond Aug 20, 12:37pm The academy is so limiting: time, money, bureaucracy, etc. #geowebchat

@geothinkca Aug 20, 12:38pm @lyzidiamond but isn’t profit margins and agenda keeping also limiting? #geowebchat

@lyzidiamond Aug 20, 12:39pm I loved my university geography/GIS program. But I didn’t learn anything tech-wise outside of certain proprietary software. #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:39pm @Geoteq Those subjects may hurt the brains of map lovers, who just want to have fun w maps (“but you can’t wo geodesy!’) ;-) #geowebchat

@lyzidiamond Aug 20, 12:39pm @geothinkca … not sure I see your point? #geowebchat

@spara Aug 20, 12:40pm I don’t think a hard/soft geo distinction is helpful. Skill are skills, you acquire them as needed #geowebchat

@alyssapwright Aug 20, 12:40pm @spara agreed. i sort of think we’re missing the point here… #geowebchat

@spara Aug 20, 12:41pm Academic geo is meta, civilian geo is purpose driven #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:42pm @lyzidiamond This speaks to larger issue of engaging people to use their brains outside a structured course #geowebchat 1/2

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:42pm @lyzidiamond @geothinkca You’re saying that industry has as many limitations as academia, and that’s certainly true… #geowebchat

@spara Aug 20, 12:42pm People want map things for a reason, that’s why they give up evenings and weekends
#geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:42pm @lyzidiamond @lyzidiamond This also speaks to larger issue of making coding/hacking less intimidating #geowebchat 2/2

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:42pm @lyzidiamond @geothinkca …And we haven’t talked much about workshops you have to pay for, and certification programs, etc… #geowebchat

@sashacuerda Aug 20, 12:42pm @geothinkca @lyzidiamond as if unis are not profit / agenda driven!!! #geowebchat

@alyssapwright Aug 20, 12:42pm my thinking: people want to make maps (responsibily) because they have something else they want to say/do/see/understand #geowebchat (1/2)

@bethschechter Aug 20, 12:43pm @JessiBreen @mappingmashups that’s a great question! For me, i still want to learn but am done with school. gal’s gotta work. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:44pm @lyzidiamond @geothinkca …we should talk about those, too, but #maptime is cheap to run, w/ vol. labor & space (thnx @stamen!) #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:44pm I wonder if hackerspaces as we conceive of them are gendered, intimidating to women, & how to change that #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 20, 12:45pm @JessiBreen @mappingmashups also, yes, school is expensive. Also…is the academy the best place to learn skills? debatable… #geowebchat

@spara Aug 20, 12:45pm re: hacker spaces textfiles.com/uploads/hackin… #geowebchat

@lyzidiamond Aug 20, 12:45pm @JacqInTheBooks I think that having beginner tables as well as space for non-beginners can help make things less intimidating #geowebchat

@geothinkca Aug 20, 12:46pm @mappingmashups @lyzidiamond exactly. diffs are many but the coop btwn the two important. Masters aside its a matter of impact #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 20, 12:46pm @re_sieber hackerspaces are intimidating to a lot of people! As are API libraries and other online resources. #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:46pm @bethschechter @JessiBreen @mappingmashups We are told @ my university that we CANNOT teach skills #geowebchat

@spara Aug 20, 12:47pm @re_sieber @bethschechter @JessiBreen @mappingmashups Whaaaaa? #geowebchat

@alyssapwright Aug 20, 12:47pm many opportunities to learn geo in service to a larger goal. hard part is building the structured open space for learning. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:47pm We do want to make #maptime inviting to a very diverse audience. But I think we could also have done it at a hackerspace… #geowebchat

@JessiBreen Aug 20, 12:47pm @bethschechter @mappingmashups Maps are power. Of course geoweb needs to get out of the academy & into the hands of the public. #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 20, 12:47pm @re_sieber getting people together who are all learning, and putting them on a project together, allows them to learn together #geowebchat

@spara Aug 20, 12:47pm @alyssapwright Why structured? #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:47pm …individual outreach to get diverse audiences to these events is key, no matter where they’re held. #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 20, 12:48pm @re_sieber add experts to the mix, to help answer questions, and you’ve got a good thing going :) #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 20, 12:48pm @mappingmashups what do you mean by doing it as a hackerspace? how would #maptime be different? #geowebchat

@alyssapwright Aug 20, 12:48pm @spara it can’t happen every once in a while — you can count on it and on progress. something that says: “I’m getting better.” #geowebchat

@JacqInTheBooks Aug 20, 12:49pm @lyzidiamond Agreed! Online spaces seem safer for beginners too – can ‘lurk & learn’! #geowebchat

@lyzidiamond Aug 20, 12:49pm @mappingmashups This is why refreshments are so great! :) #geowebchat

@spara Aug 20, 12:49pm The hackerdojo.com model of engagement teaches kids to program all over the world. Why not have one for geo? #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:49pm @spara @bethschechter @JessiBreen @mappingmashups Skills obsolesce; we’re supposed to teach critical thinking in our university #geowebchat

@Geoteq Aug 20, 12:49pm @bethschechter Concepts r important. It’s through them that can handle any softw. If u know de concept software do not interest #geowebchat

@spara Aug 20, 12:49pm Damn you twitter, the last tweet references hackerdojo #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:50pm @bethschechter I mean, I would’ve been equally comfortable hosting at @noisebridge, for ex. You still have to actively invite. #geowebchat

@alyssapwright Aug 20, 12:50pm #maptime is not hacking or workshops — it’s a way to transform the hackathons into sustainable learning and building spaces. #geowebchat

@spara Aug 20, 12:50pm @re_sieber @bethschechter @JessiBreen @mappingmashups critical thinking and $2.50 will get you a cup of coffee at starbucks #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:50pm @bethschechter in Maker community, there’s lots of diff in activities by gender #geowebchat

@alyssapwright Aug 20, 12:51pm @JacqInTheBooks i find online spaces are often hostile to beginners. harder to fine mentorship and apprenticeship. #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:52pm @spara @bethschechter @JessiBreen @mappingmashups I’ve done so much critical thinking, I’m ready to open a coffee shop #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:52pm (FYI, this chat is being projected on the big screen during @stamen’s lunch hour. You’re all famous!) #geowebchat

@spara Aug 20, 12:53pm crap, I meant coderdojo coderdojo.com not hackerdojo, as model of pedagogy outside academia #geowebchat

@geographerliz Aug 20, 12:53pm Agree to a point, though the lines are starting to blur as uni’s struggle MT @spara: Acad geo is meta, civ geo is purpose driven #geowebchat

@JessiBreen Aug 20, 12:53pm @mappingmashups @stamen *waves* #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 20, 12:54pm @mappingmashups oh, I see what you’re saying. Yes. @stamen works so well, since we work here. But @noisebridge is super close! #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:54pm @mappingmashups @stamen but #geowebchat was already all famous bc of @bricker talk @ #AAG2013

@spara Aug 20, 12:54pm we have screens for tweets related to @codeforamerica as well, neeners! #geowebchat

@alyssapwright Aug 20, 12:55pm @mappingmashups @stamen OMG. I take it all back. #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 20, 12:55pm @re_sieber, yes, totally intimidating. it kept me from joining for a long time. #geowebchat

@glenfarrelly Aug 20, 12:56pm Focus of #geowebchat appears to be creating maps. Are there other ways to create & share #geoweb info to reach different types of people?

@spara Aug 20, 12:57pm @alyssapwright @re_sieber Read @johannes_mono critique of hacker spaces textfiles.com/uploads/hackin… #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 12:57pm .@bricker talk @ #AAG2013 Discussing concept of volunteered geographic information through a Tweetchat #geowebchat meridian.aag.org/callforpapers/…

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:57pm @bethschechter Important point: Don’t have to be an expert to start #maptime. Perhaps they’re best started by potential learners #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 20, 12:58pm intimidation re: hacker spaces and failures learning to code on my own is what inspired #maptime. #geowebchat

@lyzidiamond Aug 20, 12:58pm @mappingmashups @bethschechter This is why I want to start one! #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 12:58pm Well, we’re approaching the end of our #geowebchat. I encourage you all to keep following our blog: maptimesf.tumblr.com #geowebchat

@spara Aug 20, 12:59pm Great discussion everyone! #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 20, 12:59pm @mappingmashups it would be cool, for a mapmaking and sensing activity, to do some #maptime hacks at @noisebridge :) #onthelist #geowebchat

@geographerliz Aug 20, 1:00pm @mappingmashups learners still need leaders, & leaders should be open to teaching a variety of techniques & be learners #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 1:00pm As always, I’m looking for guest hosts and topic suggestions for future chats. Next #geowebchat is in two weeks: Sep 3. Topic TBD.

@JacqInTheBooks Aug 20, 1:00pm Thanks to all #geowebchat’ters today!

@re_sieber Aug 20, 1:00pm @glenfarrelly #geowebchat is more than maps but, in non-academic circles, it tends to attract map lovers #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 20, 1:01pm @geographerliz “learners still need leaders, & leaders should be open to teaching” = yes! also, mb 1 day students can teach too #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 20, 1:02pm signing off #geowebchat. Thanks everyone! cheers

@re_sieber Aug 20, 1:03pm .@mappingmashups Didn’t we use one #geowebchat to sort of bash the private sector? Do we now have to be careful now you’re @stamen? ;-)

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 1:03pm Thanks everybody! May a thousand #maptimes bloom! #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 1:03pm @re_sieber @stamen Bring it on! #geowebchat

@re_sieber Aug 20, 1:06pm @mappingmashups @stamen With that, great #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 20, 1:08pm RT @spara: @re_sieber @mappingmashups @stamen It’s not bashing if it’s “fair and balanced” a la @SeanGorman #geowebchat

@USGSTNMRes Aug 20, 1:31pm @mappingmashups Just caught end of #geowebchat. Can #maptime go national? Also re Stamen: congrats!

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