#geowebchat transcript, 16 September 2014: Hand-drawn maps part 2


@mappingmashups Sep 15, 10:41am Tomorrow on #geowebchat is hand-drawn-maps part 2: show & tell & critique. Bring examples of hand-made cartography! Tue, Sep 16, 12pm PDT.

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:01pm Hey everybody, welcome to another #geowebchat! We are resuming last week’s discussion about hand-drawn maps: mappingmashups.net/2014/09/02/geo…

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:02pm Today’s #geowebchat will go into depth w/ a few examples of hand-drawn maps in the digital age. Let’s show-and-tell some of your favorites!

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:03pm As always w/ #geowebchat, make sure to include the hashtag in all your tweets. Tools like this help you follow along tweetchat.com/room/geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:05pm Here’s a RT from last night via @mvexel for #geowebchat “@punkish: enough of this computer shit… old school punkish.org/Hand-Drawn-Maps

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:06pm Another for #geowebchat… does hand-drawn make more room for imagination? RT @re_sieber: Imaginary hand drawn maps pic.twitter.com/4BkFMo1lhZ

@erictheise Sep 16, 12:10pm hey all, i returned quite exhausted from @foss4g, but here are a few examples that popped to mind last time. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:15pm …it’s either very quiet for today’s #geowebchat, or my internet connection is failing me (which might be the case today).

@re_sieber Sep 16, 12:16pm Unfortunately, I teach right in the middle of #geowebchat so I can’t easily contribute this Fall

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:17pm I’m very much enjoying the latest Pencil style by @aj_ashton in @Mapbox Studio: a.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/examples.a4… #geowebchat

@erictheise Sep 16, 12:17pm my examples are from fine arts; etchings by #EdRuscha of LA & SF street intersections crownpoint.com/artists/ruscha #geowebchat

@re_sieber Sep 16, 12:18pm Some resources “You are Here”, “Dictionary of Imaginary Places”, “Else/Where” #geowebchat (on break from class)

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:18pm RT @erictheise: in ’69 book club of calif published ‘designs on the land’ hand drawn maps from ranchers google.com/search?q=Desig… #geowebchat

@geodosu Sep 16, 12:18pm @mappingmashups @aj_ashton @Mapbox That is very nice #geowebchat

@erictheise Sep 16, 12:19pm some of his work with #mixografia, handmade paper/relief: mixographia.com/artist.php?bas… #geowebchat

@ebrelsford Sep 16, 12:21pm is today’s #geowebchat about anything particular within the umbrella of handdrawn maps?

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:21pm .@erictheise Those hand-drawn maps by ranchers are interesting in that the hand-drawnness helps communicate a connection w/ land #geowebchat

@SpatialProphet Sep 16, 12:21pm @mappingmashups #geowebchat I’ve a great “folk”map from Culebra PR.. in storage. Zzz #Dilapidated&DrunkRentalCarMerchantMakesForGoodMemories

@erictheise Sep 16, 12:23pm the color and line work in #EdRuscha LA/SF soft ground etchings pleases, size fits in hand, imagining impossible intersections. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:23pm @ebrelsford Last time on #geowebchat we talked abt the role of hand-drawn maps in the digital age. Today we’re hoping to dive into examples

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:23pm .@ebrelsford …so, which of these maps resonates w/ us for deeper inspection? What can we learn from it vis-a-vis the digital? #geowebchat

@jonahadkins Sep 16, 12:24pm @mappingmashups At The #VirginiaGIS Conference, One Of My Fave Hand Drawn Web Maps Is …ssine-moi-une-ville.makina-corpus.net/#14/43.5934/1…. #geowebchat

@ebrelsford Sep 16, 12:24pm i always come back to the maps by the surveillance camera players eg notbored.org/LES-2011.jpg #geowebchat

@erictheise Sep 16, 12:25pm yes, @mappingmashups, maps appear naive, but show deep familiarity w/landmarks & features. think ranchers all lost land anyway. #geowebchat

@vtcraghead Sep 16, 12:25pm .@mappingmashups I’ll just point out that the CartoCSS “line-smooth” parameter is fake-hand-drawing-gold. farm8.staticflickr.com/7358/875612372… #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:25pm .@ebrelsford Great example. So what does a hand-made map of surveillance do different from this: appliedautonomy.com/isee.html ? #geowebchat

@jonahadkins Sep 16, 12:26pm @mappingmashups Also Tons Of Cool Ones At comiccartography.tumblr.com #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:27pm @erictheise Contrast w/ of the recurring themes in PPGIS: that professional-looking maps help disadvantaged groups get heard. #geowebchat

@ebrelsford Sep 16, 12:28pm @mappingmashups good point, I think the data is related, actually! or at least that the players collected data for iSee #geowebchat

@erictheise Sep 16, 12:28pm naive or pro, odds pretty stacked against ranchers in california land grabs, @mappingmashups #geowebchat

@erictheise Sep 16, 12:29pm some of the 92 maps that structure #PeterGreenaway’s #aWalkThroughH
google.com/search?q=peter… #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:29pm .@ebrelsford Interesting. But emphasizing the data is hand-collected reclaims a sense of humanity and individuality, perhaps. #geowebchat

@ebrelsford Sep 16, 12:30pm @mappingmashups here being hand-drawn exposes the methodology, too. “oh, i could have done that.” #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:30pm .@ebrelsford Even tho that particular map (notbored.org/LES-2011.jpg) probably was made after the fact, not during data collection #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:33pm @erictheise So do hand-made maps communicate narrative differently, Eric? (Not having seen A Walk Through H yet) #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:35pm .@erictheise I’m wondering if hand-made maps communicate the time it took to make the map, while digital maps seem instantaneous #geowebchat

@erictheise Sep 16, 12:35pm #PeterGreenaway modifies his maps as the film progresses. the subtitle of the film is ‘the reincarnation of an ornithologist’
#geowebchat

@spara Sep 16, 12:36pm Revealing my deepest nerd, I spent lot of time drawing D&D maps like this but with more detail upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm… #geowebchat

@erictheise Sep 16, 12:37pm when the deceased lingers, landmarks fade from map and endangers progression along underworld journey. #aWalkThroughH #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:37pm @spara But if you were growing up today, would you have made those maps digitally? In QGIS/TileMill/D3… or minecraft? ;) #geowebchat

@erictheise Sep 16, 12:38pm when he over-accelerates, he gets stuck in a territory with no exit yet available and has to cycle aimlessly. #aWalkThroughH #geowebchat

@spara Sep 16, 12:39pm @mappingmashups There are probably specific map generators for turn based games today. #geowebchat

@spara Sep 16, 12:42pm I used to Traveler and now there’s a map server for it travellermap.com/?x=6.295&y=-28… #geowebchat

@billdollins Sep 16, 12:43pm @spara Same here. Spent hours on them. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:43pm So how about we take the last 15 minutes to look at the details of some of the artificial hand-drawn maps? #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:45pm I’m admiring the similarities and differences between …ssine-moi-une-ville.makina-corpus.net/#15/43.5901/1…. and a.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/examples.a4… #geowebchat

@spara Sep 16, 12:47pm Way back when, Mapblast would generate driveline/beeline maps that looked a lot like what a person would draw #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:48pm I love how the @makinacorpus map uses post-its for labels, for extra realism: …ssine-moi-une-ville.makina-corpus.net/#15/43.5962/1…. #geowebchat pic.twitter.com/pmOlKqzIJ8

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:51pm You can see @makinacorpus using smthg like line-smooth as @vtcraghead mentioned …ssine-moi-une-ville.makina-corpus.net/#19/43.59922/1… #geowebchat pic.twitter.com/6eURNxCsIr

@spara Sep 16, 12:51pm An example strip maps buildinghistory.org/images/Ogilby1… AAA used to generate them when you asked for one. #geowebchat

@vtcraghead Sep 16, 12:54pm .@mappingmashups @makinacorpus HOT LEGEND. Off-topic, but that’s a great example of a novel implementation in an interactive. #geowebchat

@spara Sep 16, 12:58pm I’ve always liked the AAA Triptiks google.com/search?q=aaa+s… #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 12:59pm Well, we are reaching the end of another #geowebchat. Thanks for all the links, everybody! Transcript here soon: mappingmashups.net/geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 1:00pm Next #geowebchat is in 3 weeks, on Oct 7. The topic will be “Cartography and Time”, since that’s the theme of #NACIS which starts that week.

@mappingmashups Sep 16, 1:23pm RT @punkish: re Hand Drawn Maps (punkish.org/Hand-Drawn-Maps), search sucks but the battery life is infinite #geowebchat

@re_sieber Sep 16, 9:52pm Appropo of the #geowebchat discussion on hand-drawn maps:Richly Detailed Maps Give the Modern World a Victorian Twist gizmodo.com/these-richly-d…

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