#geowebchat transcript, 1 September 2015: #MapLift and @FixWikiMaps


@mappingmashups Sep 01, 8:50am Today (Tue Sep 1) on #geowebchat we’re talking about #MapLift (nacis.org/maplift/) & @fixwikimaps. Join us at noon PDT! Please RT!

@fixwikimaps Sep 01, 9:25am We’re going to be featured on @mappingmashups #geowebchat today, so be sure to tune in and ask questions! #MapLift

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:00pm Welcome everyone to our monthly #geowebchat twitter chat. Today we’re talking about @fixwikimaps and nacis.org/maplift/

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:01pm As always with #geowebchat, make sure you use the hashtag in your tweets to join the conversation. Or mute that hashtag to ignore us!

@fixwikimaps Sep 01, 12:01pm #geowebchat is live!

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:02pm I recommend using a tool like tweetchat.com/room/geowebchat to follow along more easily. For more about #geowebchat see: mappingmashups.net/geowebchat/

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:03pm So let’s start by explaining what @fixwikimaps and #maplift is all about. Then let’s do some show and tell & get feedback. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:06pm @brianddavidson & @jscarto (& with me, a little bit) are the ones who run @fixwikimaps, an effort to improve maps on @Wikipedia #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:07pm @pinakographos & @NACIS joined in the effort with #maplift, which is a week-long @fixwikimaps marathon. It’s going on now! #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:08pm @jscarto @brianddavidson @pinakographos @NACIS @fixwikimaps Who of you all is joining #geowebchat? Want to tell us how #maplift is going?

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:09pm RT @tonyquartararo why not just convince @Wikipedia to use @openstreetmap @stamen @mapzen or @Mapbox as the standard references? #geowebchat

@fixwikimaps Sep 01, 12:09pm @mappingmashups #MapLift has been great so far! We’ve had over 100+ new maps added to our database and about 10 have been lifted!#geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:10pm @tonyquartararo Good question! Mainly because most wiki articles need specific, custom maps, not just a default locator map. #geowebchat

@pinakographos Sep 01, 12:12pm @mappingmashups @jscarto @brianddavidson @NACIS @fixwikimaps Also I am so far failing to remember to type #geowebchat in my tweets.

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:12pm @tonyquartararo Although I recently learned @Wikipedia _does_ have a project to run its own OSM basemap #geowebchat mediawiki.org/wiki/Maps

@nixzusehen Sep 01, 12:12pm @tonyquartararo The default renderings aren’t appropriate for all articles. A good map enhances the article’s point. #geowebchat

@fixwikimaps Sep 01, 12:12pm @mappingmashups @tonyquartararo It is also monitored by the community, so Wikipedia doesn’t really put any limitations #geowebchat

@vtcraghead Sep 01, 12:12pm @mappingmashups @tonyquartararo Definitely seems like a reasonable approach for SOME article types to standardize maps. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:13pm @tonyquartararo Well @mapisart is great for what it does: somewhat customized printed maps, but they’re not really encyclopedic #geowebchat

@pinakographos Sep 01, 12:14pm @mappingmashups @tonyquartararo Also, many articles need maps of historical regions/phenomenon, which web maps don’t have #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:14pm @tonyquartararo The kinds of maps that an encyclopedia article needs are like those listed on fixwikimaps.tumblr.com But better! #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:19pm Also, @pinakographos & @NACIS, what’s this I hear about a #MapLift show and tell on CartoTalk.com tomorrow? #geowebchat

@pinakographos Sep 01, 12:21pm @mappingmashups @NACIS We’re encouraging people to share their in-progress maps on CartoTalk.com tomorrow & Friday #geowebchat.

@pinakographos Sep 01, 12:21pm @mappingmashups @NACIS We’ve got some early discussion already going: cartotalk.com/index.php?show… #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:23pm Oh, & we didn’t mention about #maplift there will be prizes for the best maps created during the project! nacis.org/maplift/ #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:24pm So who is working on maps for @fixwikimaps and #MapLift? Does anyone want to share their work with #geowebchat? Anyone need advice?

@vtcraghead Sep 01, 12:24pm #MapLift has been an excellent reminder that static cartographer doesn’t come easily to me, needs workshopping. #geowebchat

@pinakographos Sep 01, 12:25pm @mappingmashups That’s close. Every map made is an entry into a prize drawing. more maps = more chances to win! #geowebchat

@vtcraghead Sep 01, 12:26pm Speaking of #maplift, this would be good to pair with the 1946 map here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_ic… #geowebchat

@fixwikimaps Sep 01, 12:27pm .@mappingmashups @vtcraghead We’ve been loving the step by step you’ve been doing on your #MapLift journey! #geowebchat

@pinakographos Sep 01, 12:27pm @mappingmashups @vtcraghead Seeing people share the stages of their work is great, and I don’t think it’s done enough #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:28pm If you’re working on #maplift, you can get feedback on CartoTalk: cartotalk.com/index.php?show… or on this Slack get.maptiks.com/gisdevs-on-sla… #geowebchat

@vtcraghead Sep 01, 12:29pm @pinakographos @mappingmashups Yeah, workshopping doesn’t come easily once we’ve adopted the label “professional”. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:30pm @niperkm Good question for #geowebchat. Are there @fixwikimaps style guides we should follow? I’m sure there are @Wikipedia pages somewhere?

@pinakographos Sep 01, 12:32pm @mappingmashups @niperkm @fixwikimaps There’s en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia…, but it seems to be deviated from often. #geowebchat

@pinakographos Sep 01, 12:33pm @mappingmashups @niperkm @fixwikimaps I think it’s useful more for people approaching this with 0 background skills #geowebchat

@fixwikimaps Sep 01, 12:34pm @mappingmashups @niperkm It looks like it’s only there for historical reference though #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:37pm RT @tonyquartararo: @pinakographos @mappingmashups good point. But a “way back machine” for OpenStreetMap ? #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:37pm @tonyquartararo @pinakographos Well, @OpenHistMap is the historical @openstreetmap spin-off project, but it has a long way to go #geowebchat

@pinakographos Sep 01, 12:38pm @tonyquartararo @mappingmashups That would be great and help in some situations, but still great value in custom, focused maps #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:38pm @gfred3rick We’re having a #geowebchat discussion about #maplift right now. Maybe someone will give you feedback there!

@fixwikimaps Sep 01, 12:39pm What do the folks on #geowebchat think?

@johnjcz Sep 01, 12:41pm Does there have to be any sort of consensus around maps that need fixing / fixed maps for #maplift? #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:46pm @johnjcz not really. Its admittedly very subjective. If a map needs help, you’ll know it when you see it! #maplift #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:50pm @johnjcz There’s a lot of maps on wikipedia that need help, so we don’t want to waste #maplift effort on “good enough” maps… #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:51pm RT @geo_will: sometimes you don’t know until you use it. Had a map for climbing in Pakistan, it was wrong, looked lovely though #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:52pm @geo_will Good point: most of #MapLift is about correcting style, not always fixing factual error #geowebchat

@pinakographos Sep 01, 12:53pm @johnjcz If the community disagrees, they might revert to the old map, which is fine. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:53pm @geo_will this gets into the topic of “armchair mapping” which we mentioned in the last #geowebchat. And I think maybe next time’s topic.

@johnjcz Sep 01, 12:54pm @mappingmashups That’s why I was curious. Seems like most wikipedia maps are “good enough” ie factually correct but maybe “ugly” #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:55pm @johnjcz Well, “good enough” should also be a function of usability. If it’s factually correct but unreadable, it needs help. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 1:00pm Thanks to everyone who joined today’s #geowebchat! Keep working on your #maplift projects, and check out nacis.org/maplift/ this week!

@johnjcz Sep 01, 1:02pm @mappingmashups Does @fixwikimaps have a “why” for maps that need fixing? Curious to see what people deem “not good enough” #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 1:03pm Next chat will be in one month: October 6th, same time. Topic will be “armchair mapping”! Mapping from the comfort of your home! #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 1:04pm @johnjcz @fixwikimaps fixwikimaps.tumblr.com tries to give a “why” about most of the maps that need fixing. #maplift #geowebchat

@AlbinPCLarsson Sep 01, 1:05pm .@fixwikimaps #maplift #geowebchat are you aware of the Commons map template?

Strongly recommend using it :-)

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 1:09pm @wildlifegisgirl I haven’t done any yet, but we just had a whole #geowebchat about #maplift! #gistribe

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 1:18pm @AlbinPCLarsson @fixwikimaps Is this the template you mean? commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:… #geowebchat

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