#geowebchat transcript, 3 November 2015: #opengovdata with @GeoCensos

@GeoCensos Oct 30, 6:10pm After #ogpmapping at #ogp15 we ask : What can govs learn from #openmappping ?. Join us next 3/11 11am EST in #geowebchat #opengovdata”

@mappingmashups Nov 02, 5:25pm Tmrw on #geowebchat, we wake up early on the west coast for a special time 8am PST. Topic is #opengovdata w/ guest host @GeoCensos. Join us!

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 6:02am Welcome all #openmapping communities 2 discuss about #govopengeodata in a #geowebchat hosted by @GeoCensos, tks to @geothinkca initiative

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 6:03am Welcome also #opengovpart stakeholders 2 discuss about #govopengeodata in a #geowebchat hosted by @GeoCensos, tks to @geothinkca initiative

@geothinkca Nov 03, 6:14am RT @re_sieber: What govs can learn from #openmappping?#geowebchat 11am EST Nov 3 medium.com/@mikelmaron/op…

@re_sieber Nov 03, 7:19am Economic Impact of Open Data: What Do We Already Know? From @JeniT @ ODI huffingtonpost.co.uk/jeni-tennison/… #geowebchat @geothinkca @peterajohnson

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 7:51am Welcom all parties and communities to discuss about #govopengeodata in a #geowebchat hosted by @GeoCensos, thanks to @geothinkca initiative

@re_sieber Nov 03, 7:59am Welcome everyone to #opendata for government & #openmapping @ #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Nov 03, 8:00am Hello to everyone joining today’s special-time #geowebchat! Welcome to #ogp15 attendees! More info about the chat: mappingmashups.net/geowebchat/

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:01am Goal of this #geowebchat: trigger dialogue answering 4 provoking statements in a scale: 1. Agree + 2. Agree – 3. Not agree + 4. Not agree -

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:01am Or #opendata for gov is viewed as use cases, best practices #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Nov 03, 8:01am If you want to join the conversation, be sure to use the hashtag #geowebchat in all your tweets. Follow along here: tweetchat.com/room/geowebchat

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:03am #geowebchat will be enriched justifying previously scaled answers, ie “3. NOT AGREE to statement because governments don’t know about maps”

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:03am #openmapping for gov is also a managerial issue. How do you integrate #opendata in SOP of gov? #geowebchat

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:03am We should probably begin by defining ‘open’ in #opendata, #openmapping for go #geowebchat

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:04am @re_sieber Its a matter of openess of institutions, of course , and gov need to apropiate #datarevolution #geowebchat

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:06am .@GeoCensos Never thought of ‘open’ as openness of institutions to VGI. Usually think of open as OKFN definition #geowebchat

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:06am @re_sieber openess in #geodata is about simple accessibility to data, its replicability and reuse for anyone or ANY purposes #geowebchat

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:07am .@peterajohnson has done research on openness of gov to accept citizen-generated data like OSM #geowebchat

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:08am #geowebchat STATEmnt 1 #openmapping will never work for govs as all stat nat offices own all mayor #geodata in countries and don`t share.

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:08am #geowebchat will enrich if justifying previously scaled answers, ie “3. NOT AGREE to statement because governments don’t know about maps”

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:09am .@GeoCensos Depends on scale, as ownership varies by level of gov. US fed data governed by strong FOIA, cult of openbydefault #geowebchat

@peterajohnson Nov 03, 8:09am Intrigued by the possibility of #OSM adoption I asked 8 Canadian muni govs what they thought – most had never heard of #OSM #geowebchat

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:10am @re_sieber @peterajohnson can u please provide any links about that? I`d be fruitful if some of #geowebchat can enrich that research I guess

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:11am .@ international level, we have instance of UN, other agencies using OSM for humanitarian relief #geowebchat

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:11am @peterajohnson Sure there is a #evangelization gap between gov natnl or local on #openmapping that the real #datarevolution #geowebchat

@peterajohnson Nov 03, 8:11am Some govs are open to direct citizen contributions to fix data errors. Not sure if direct edits would fit. #geowebchat

@davidfawcett Nov 03, 8:12am @GeoCensos In my mind, economic value is directly proportional to degree of openness, but no data to back it up. no -BY, etc. #geowebchat

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:12am Are we working w a common definition of #openmapping? Is it = non-expert crowdsourced geographic content? #geowebchat

@peterajohnson Nov 03, 8:13am Does gov position as provider for emergency services routing, legal land titles, impact possibility of open map adoption? #geowebchat

@peterajohnson Nov 03, 8:13am @re_sieber I’m assuming we are talking about #osm ? #geowebchat

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:14am @mapanauta @GeoCensos @lxbarth Not sure we have the extra characters to use both #geowebchat & #opengeotalk

@charlielapin Nov 03, 8:14am .@re_sieber Why non-expert? The qualifier seems unnecessary considering the implications of openness. #geowebchat

@bensonwilder Nov 03, 8:14am .@GeoCensos #geowebchat don’t agree, of course, since we are already seeing many examples to the contrary

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:14am @re_sieber Signaling could work for openess in institutions, its time to think about a good std 4certifiable openess 4 govs #geowebchat

@bensonwilder Nov 03, 8:16am .@GeoCensos #geowebchat but open mapping definition can include OSM and other thematic data, some of which can be more ‘proprietary’

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:16am .@charlielapin We usually-not always-insert non-expert into discussion of VGI to distinguish it from credentialled contributions #geowebchat

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:18am .@bensonwilder would lk to broaden discussion beyond OSM. Examples of proprietary sources? Is #openmapping ab data or map? #geowebchat

@bensonwilder Nov 03, 8:19am .@peterajohnson #geowebchat It can, in good ways – see modernisation.gouv.fr/salle-de-press…

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:20am @re_sieber #openmapping has no common definition as it is an evolving discipline, its still a challenging task #geowebchat

@lxbarth Nov 03, 8:20am @re_sieber @bensonwilder see also openaddresses.io #geowebchat

@lxbarth Nov 03, 8:20am @re_sieber @bensonwilder open mapping = open data + open collaboration #geowebchat

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:21am #geowebchat STATEmnt 2 #opengovs are really trying hard #opengeodata actions, but they WILL NEVER include #openmapping in their workflows

@peterajohnson Nov 03, 8:21am @bensonwilder Nice example – this is a good start. Still unsure about prop bound, but turns/curbs for emerg serv maybe? #geowebchat

@bensonwilder Nov 03, 8:22am .@re_sieber #geowebchat varies according to context and local/natl authority. but admin boundaries at lower levels for one.

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:22am #geowebchat discussion can work justifying scaled answers to below, ie “3. NOT AGREE to statement because bla bla bla…”

@bensonwilder Nov 03, 8:22am @lxbarth @re_sieber #geowebchat yes that’s a better link!

@vtcraghead Nov 03, 8:23am @lxbarth @re_sieber @bensonwilder <canofworms>Google Map Maker</canofworms> #geowebchat

@bensonwilder Nov 03, 8:23am @lxbarth @re_sieber #geowebchat maps are always about the data imho.

@lxbarth Nov 03, 8:23am @vtcraghead @re_sieber @bensonwilder google map maker does not create open data #geowebchat

@peterajohnson Nov 03, 8:23am @vtcraghead @lxbarth @re_sieber @bensonwilder clearly not open! #geowebchat

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:24am .@bensonwilder @lxbarth I still some #opendata portals in Canada, where gov thinks OD is ab mapping/viz data #geowebchat

@peterajohnson Nov 03, 8:25am @GeoCensos but…I am sure there are many that already do some comparison between #osm and own data #geowebchat

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:26am .@bensonwilder @lxbarth Also issue of how close to raw data should be #geowebchat

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:26am @peterajohnson #geowebchat maybe its true, but this does not assure govs will adopt the #openess of #geodata … have u got case studies?

@bensonwilder Nov 03, 8:28am .@peterajohnson @GeoCensos #geowebchat compare, use, incorporate, fill in gaps…

@peterajohnson Nov 03, 8:29am @GeoCensos working on those case studies…. #geowebchat

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:29am #geowebchat STATEmnt 3 @aliciabarcena from @eclac_un said Nat stats orgs MUST be opened to civil society . Explain your position, please.

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:30am (whoa, seeing lots of grammatical errors in my own #geowebchat). This is not like a bicycle-must continue to practice twitterchats!)

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:32am @re_sieber Never mind, I guess latinos like @javiercarranza3 have a lot to learn from you, not smth to be too proud of, but…#geowebchat

@vtcraghead Nov 03, 8:32am @lxbarth @re_sieber @bensonwilder e.g. satsentinel.org/blog/lets-buil… #geowebchat

@bensonwilder Nov 03, 8:33am .@re_sieber @lxbarth well to be fair that still allows for engagement with the data. positive step on a spectrum in my book.#geowebchat

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:33am What about statement3? No politically correct answers, please! @aliciabarcena said Nat stat orgs MUST be opened to civil society #geowebchat

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:33am In #openmapping, are we agnostic as to source? Don’t care if citizen-, gov- or priv sector generated? #geowebchat

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:36am If we’re agnostic ab source of data (citizen, priv sector,gov) then can we still ask for raw data Can we have opencollab w/o it? #geowebchat

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:38am #geowebchat STATEmnt5 @mikel said @ goo.gl/jrx5tU that #openmapping is “equally accessible, not silo’d by border or organization”

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:38am .@bensonwilder @lxbarth How is opencollab diff from a consulting contract to map? #geowebchat

@davidfawcett Nov 03, 8:38am @bensonwilder I am pretty sure that the proprietary vendors are doing it, why not gov! #geowebchat

@vtcraghead Nov 03, 8:39am @peterajohnson @lxbarth @re_sieber @bensonwilder Well it’s complicated, not least by license: services.google.com/fb/forms/mapma… #geowebchat

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:40am @re_sieber @bensonwilder @lxbarth 4 us, #opencollab does not diff from a consulting contract to map but in #geoopendata #geowebchat

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:40am .@GeoCensos @aliciabarcena Agreed. Data from Nat stats orgs must open data to civil society (protecting privacy, OFC) #geowebchat

@davidfawcett Nov 03, 8:41am @bensonwilder @re_sieber @lxbarth Maybe there is an opportunity to provide tools/apis that gov can use to monitor data changes? #geowebchat

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:41am @re_sieber @aliciabarcena thats a dimension that should be embeded in #opendata definitions : institutional policies #geowebchat

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:42am .@mikel argues, in #openmapping, ‘Sources & methodologies are fully transparent’. Just say no to patents #geowebchat

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:45am Time to wrap up #geowebchat : Have 3 – 4 concluding remarks to make sure we all understood our #geowebchat findings or takeaways Maybe not

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:45am #geowebchat Conclusion 1 Governments need to walk the talk 4 #openmapping and #mappingrevolution as many don`t even know the talk

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:46am #geowebchat Conclusion 2 You can convince governments to include some #opengeodata in their plans, but the walk needs a long talk yet

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:46am Don’t see opening in medium.com/@mikelmaron/op… for licenses ever. Thorny subj #geowebchat

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:46am #geowebchat Conclusion 3 Google Map maker is clearly not open and does not fit in the evolving definition of @openmapping

@davidfawcett Nov 03, 8:46am @GeoCensos Next steps or place for further discussion? #geowebchat

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:46am #geowebchat Conclusion 4 Have some #opendata portals in Canada, where gov thinks OD is a mapping/viz data #geowebchat

@davidfawcett Nov 03, 8:48am @GeoCensos How do we get together to focus those talks? (my interest is US state and local gov data) #geowebchat

@jedmiller Nov 03, 8:48am @re_sieber But #DataRevolution work must tell Nat Stats orgs to /engage/ CSOs, not just “open” data @GeoCensos @aliciabarcena #geowebchat

@bensonwilder Nov 03, 8:49am .@GeoCensos #geowebchat we are going to see as much #openmappingevolution as we do #openmappingrevolution. more of the latter at local scale

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:49am .@GeoCensos @openmapping Conclusion 3:We need consensus on meaning of open. Otherwise, concept can be co-opted by gov, priv sect #geowebchat

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:50am @davidfawcett 1. we are going to put together a paper and share 2 put a statement 4 @StatsCanada next NSO conference in #Quito #geowebchat

@bensonwilder Nov 03, 8:51am #geowebchat @jedmiller @re_sieber @GeoCensos @aliciabarcena incentives may lie in co-creation of (often new) data

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:51am .@jedmiller No to #Opendata as throwing data over the wall sciencedirect.com/science/articl… #geowebchat

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:51am #geowebchat conclusion 5:We need consensus on meaning of open. Otherwise, concept can be co-opted by gov, priv sect

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:53am Thanks to everyone who joined today’s #geowebchat! Lets keep working on to map together with #opengovs a better world!

@jedmiller Nov 03, 8:54am Good idea. A “create-a-palooza” for #opendata, w/2-way incentives. Instead of “We make. You use.” #geowebchat

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:54am Conclusion 5.5 #openmapping > crowdsourced mapping #geowebchat #FOSS

@re_sieber Nov 03, 8:56am Thanks everyone for participating in today’s #geowebchat on #openmapping, #opencollaboration

@GeoCensos Nov 03, 8:57am Sorry, but @javiercarranza3 needs to catch a plane from Mexico – Bogota. Please keep the dialogue open and geo. Hasta la vista! #geowebchat

@jedmiller Nov 03, 8:58am .@re_sieber Yes. No #opendata “over the wall.” Need govt listening to what can makes #opendata usable. tech.transparency-initiative.org/treat-all-data… #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Nov 03, 9:01am Thanks @GeoCensos for running today’s #geowebchat! I’ll post the transcript on mappingmashups.net shortly!

@jedmiller Nov 03, 9:03am Rich soil, vast expanses in twitter #GeoWebChat on #geomapping, #opendata and what can govts learn. @re_sieber @mikel

@mappingmashups Nov 03, 9:03am Next #geowebchat is in one month, on Dec 1st, at 12 noon PST. Topic will be the #topgeostoryof2015. Start sending me your votes!

@mikel Nov 03, 11:03am great #geowebchat today, sorry to miss twitter.com/hashtag/geoweb… #openmapping is about collaboration, great example medium.com/backchannel/op…

@GeoCensos Nov 04, 3:02pm Our last #geowebchat boarded relevance and potential of #mappingrevolution for governments, preview transcript at ln.is/tweetchat.com/…

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#geowebchat transcript, 6 October 2015: “armchair mapping”

@mappingmashups Oct 02, 10:18am Next #geowebchat we’ll discuss “armchair mapping”. What are the challenges in remote mapping for @openstreetmap? Tue Oct 6 12pm PDT. Pls RT!

@geoawesomeness Oct 02, 10:23am This #geowebchat seems really interesting! RSVP #GeoGeeks! Via @mappingmashups #geoawesomeness

@osmcbba Oct 03, 1:07pm Sigue el próximo #geowebchat: “mapeo de sillón” o “mapeo remoto”. Únete Mar 6 Oct 12h UTC-7. wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Armchair_… via @mappingmashups

@mappingmashups Oct 05, 10:53am A fascinating (& long) email thread about remote mapping: lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk… relevant to our upcoming #geowebchat (Tue Oct 6, 12pm PDT)

@mappingmashups Oct 05, 10:57am RE remote mapping by @ricaji groundtruth.in/2015/06/05/osm… @gwilymeades place-memes.blogspot.de/2015/05/the-hu… @jbjensson joi.betra.is/?p=1769 #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 7:07am Today (Tue Oct 6) on #geowebchat we debate “armchair mapping” wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Armchair_… What is it, & how do we do it well? Join us: noon PDT!

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 12:02pm Welcome everyone to today’s #geowebchat about remote mapping aka “armchair mapping” wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Armchair_…

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 12:03pm As with every #geowebchat, make sure you use the hashtag in your tweets if you want to join the conversation. Or mute the hashtag to ignore.

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 12:05pm I recommend using a tool like @TweetChat to tweetchat.com/room/geowebchat to follow along with #geowebchat. Easier to track the conversation

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 12:05pm Two months ago on #geowebchat we discussed “outdoor mapping” mappingmashups.net/2015/08/04/geo… and many people asked, isn’t all mapping done outdoors?

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 12:07pm But especially in @openstreetmap, there is a lot of mapping you can do by tracing satellite imagery: hence “armchair mapping” #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 12:08pm I’d like to hear from those of you joining #geowebchat: who has done any remote mapping yourselves, for @TheMissingMaps or @hotosm perhaps?

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 12:10pm For #geowebchat on remote mapping, some provocative arguments challenging the idea: groundtruth.in/2015/06/05/osm… and place-memes.blogspot.de/2015/05/the-hu…

@AngharadStone Oct 06, 12:13pm @mappingmashups besides armchair mapping – are we also considering modelling mapping? Ie landslide or flood risk areas? #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 12:14pm @AngharadStone Interesting Q. Is there a way someone would do the modeling differently if they were on the scene vs remote? #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 12:16pm @AngharadStone armchair mapping is controversial for 2 reasons: 1) that remote ppl don’t know the situation on the ground… #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 12:16pm @AngharadStone …and 2) that remote mappers would displace or discourage local people from doing the mapping themselves #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 12:19pm @GeoCensos interesting article! Do you think that using local social media feeds is a way to get locals involved in mapping? #geowebchat

@AngharadStone Oct 06, 12:19pm @mappingmashups #geowebchat Do you have any evidence of remote mappers discouraging ground surveying?

@mapperz Oct 06, 12:20pm @AngharadStone @mappingmashups Flood Risk Mapping Polygons wrapped up with #geoserver #openlayers #geowebchat …od-warning-information.service.gov.uk/map #map

@ricaji Oct 06, 12:23pm It’s not necessarily a case of remote mappers discouraging. It’s more a case of too little support going to local mappers. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 12:23pm @AngharadStone In the #OSM email thread there are many theories, but little evidence either way. lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk… #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 12:24pm Regarding #geowebchat, it looks like there’s a #missingmaps #mapathon happening in London as we speak! @inderpaldsingh @ukpwhite

@ricaji Oct 06, 12:26pm In some places can be tricky to create local ownership of the map as well and build local volunteer community.

@AngharadStone Oct 06, 12:26pm @mappingmashups #geowebchat Ok back to the main topic – do people consider the possible issues tracing aerial imagery? Eg tree cover

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 12:28pm @ricaji Maybe “discouraging” is the wrong word. It’s that remote mappers pre-empt a local map that would’ve evolved differently #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 12:29pm @AngharadStone Certainly that’s an issue. And in OSM there is also the frequent problem of misaligned or out-of-date imagery. #geowebchat

@TheMissingMaps Oct 06, 12:30pm @mappingmashups @inderpaldsingh @ukpwhite hi guys, remote mapping two areas of Congo tonight…. Big wave to #geowebchat gang!

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 12:30pm @AngharadStone Those are problems that even someone mapping a nearby town would face if they’re not skilled w/ aerial imagery #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 12:31pm @TheMissingMaps Which @hotosm tasks are you doing, out of curiosity? #geowebchat

@ricaji Oct 06, 12:32pm Remote mapping won’t ever be able to capture names which are of course key. So always needs to be combined with local knowledge. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 12:32pm @AngharadStone Even if you are skilled w/ tree cover (for ex) remote mappers might interpret foreign buildings/paths/etc wrong #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 12:35pm @ricaji Yes! I’m curious about: is it easier to add names to existing roads? Or less fun? Too hard to see when they’re missing? #geowebchat

@neogeografen Oct 06, 12:38pm @mappingmashups We also have to fix the name problem – lots of ppl thinks OSM is a english project then lang=eng too @ricaji #geowebchat

@AngharadStone Oct 06, 12:39pm #geowebchat @ricaji @mappingmashups even on the ground naming is really hard to get right – we have several River Avon’s (= River river)

@ricaji Oct 06, 12:40pm It’s easier to add names, but, more fun to add the road IMO :) Of course, in contested spaces this is much more important. #geowebchat

@notoncebut2x Oct 06, 12:42pm @ricaji #geowebchat Yeah I am more likely to add buildings and features than attribute data in @openstreetmap especially if I am more remote

@ricaji Oct 06, 12:42pm (Of course it’s not that simple. @mapkibera had some initial tracing support to give some orientation to first mappers.) #geowebchat

@ricaji Oct 06, 12:43pm I think linking remote – local (people2people) is key also not getting stuck into a one size fits all process for each locale. #geowebchat

@ricaji Oct 06, 12:49pm For instance linking this local volunteer qub.me/IGB_2V to armchair folks opens up new opportunities… #geowebchat

@GeoCensos Oct 06, 1:00pm @ricaji Agree, and it builts up the vital need of “belonging to” a certain project and btw community #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 1:00pm Well, we’ve reached the end of our hour at #geowebchat (I had to duck out at the end there, sorry I couldn’t keep the conversation going)

@Zjwarie Oct 06, 1:00pm Just bumping on you interesting discussion! Here you have my opinion on the subject: openstreetmap.org/user/Jorieke%2… #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 1:01pm Thanks everybody for joining #geowebchat today. The transcript will be posted at mappingmashups.net soon. Feel free to keep chatting!

@mappingmashups Oct 06, 1:02pm Next #geowebchat will be in one month (Nov 3), same time. @GeoCensos will be our guest host to discuss open #geodata & national map orgs!

@ricaji Oct 06, 1:03pm @Zjwarie OK now summarize into a few tweets :) #geowebchat

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#geowebchat transcript, 1 September 2015: #MapLift and @FixWikiMaps

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 8:50am Today (Tue Sep 1) on #geowebchat we’re talking about #MapLift (nacis.org/maplift/) & @fixwikimaps. Join us at noon PDT! Please RT!

@fixwikimaps Sep 01, 9:25am We’re going to be featured on @mappingmashups #geowebchat today, so be sure to tune in and ask questions! #MapLift

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:00pm Welcome everyone to our monthly #geowebchat twitter chat. Today we’re talking about @fixwikimaps and nacis.org/maplift/

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:01pm As always with #geowebchat, make sure you use the hashtag in your tweets to join the conversation. Or mute that hashtag to ignore us!

@fixwikimaps Sep 01, 12:01pm #geowebchat is live!

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:02pm I recommend using a tool like tweetchat.com/room/geowebchat to follow along more easily. For more about #geowebchat see: mappingmashups.net/geowebchat/

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:03pm So let’s start by explaining what @fixwikimaps and #maplift is all about. Then let’s do some show and tell & get feedback. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:06pm @brianddavidson & @jscarto (& with me, a little bit) are the ones who run @fixwikimaps, an effort to improve maps on @Wikipedia #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:07pm @pinakographos & @NACIS joined in the effort with #maplift, which is a week-long @fixwikimaps marathon. It’s going on now! #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:08pm @jscarto @brianddavidson @pinakographos @NACIS @fixwikimaps Who of you all is joining #geowebchat? Want to tell us how #maplift is going?

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:09pm RT @tonyquartararo why not just convince @Wikipedia to use @openstreetmap @stamen @mapzen or @Mapbox as the standard references? #geowebchat

@fixwikimaps Sep 01, 12:09pm @mappingmashups #MapLift has been great so far! We’ve had over 100+ new maps added to our database and about 10 have been lifted!#geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:10pm @tonyquartararo Good question! Mainly because most wiki articles need specific, custom maps, not just a default locator map. #geowebchat

@pinakographos Sep 01, 12:12pm @mappingmashups @jscarto @brianddavidson @NACIS @fixwikimaps Also I am so far failing to remember to type #geowebchat in my tweets.

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:12pm @tonyquartararo Although I recently learned @Wikipedia _does_ have a project to run its own OSM basemap #geowebchat mediawiki.org/wiki/Maps

@nixzusehen Sep 01, 12:12pm @tonyquartararo The default renderings aren’t appropriate for all articles. A good map enhances the article’s point. #geowebchat

@fixwikimaps Sep 01, 12:12pm @mappingmashups @tonyquartararo It is also monitored by the community, so Wikipedia doesn’t really put any limitations #geowebchat

@vtcraghead Sep 01, 12:12pm @mappingmashups @tonyquartararo Definitely seems like a reasonable approach for SOME article types to standardize maps. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:13pm @tonyquartararo Well @mapisart is great for what it does: somewhat customized printed maps, but they’re not really encyclopedic #geowebchat

@pinakographos Sep 01, 12:14pm @mappingmashups @tonyquartararo Also, many articles need maps of historical regions/phenomenon, which web maps don’t have #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:14pm @tonyquartararo The kinds of maps that an encyclopedia article needs are like those listed on fixwikimaps.tumblr.com But better! #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:19pm Also, @pinakographos & @NACIS, what’s this I hear about a #MapLift show and tell on CartoTalk.com tomorrow? #geowebchat

@pinakographos Sep 01, 12:21pm @mappingmashups @NACIS We’re encouraging people to share their in-progress maps on CartoTalk.com tomorrow & Friday #geowebchat.

@pinakographos Sep 01, 12:21pm @mappingmashups @NACIS We’ve got some early discussion already going: cartotalk.com/index.php?show… #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:23pm Oh, & we didn’t mention about #maplift there will be prizes for the best maps created during the project! nacis.org/maplift/ #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:24pm So who is working on maps for @fixwikimaps and #MapLift? Does anyone want to share their work with #geowebchat? Anyone need advice?

@vtcraghead Sep 01, 12:24pm #MapLift has been an excellent reminder that static cartographer doesn’t come easily to me, needs workshopping. #geowebchat

@pinakographos Sep 01, 12:25pm @mappingmashups That’s close. Every map made is an entry into a prize drawing. more maps = more chances to win! #geowebchat

@vtcraghead Sep 01, 12:26pm Speaking of #maplift, this would be good to pair with the 1946 map here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_ic… #geowebchat

@fixwikimaps Sep 01, 12:27pm .@mappingmashups @vtcraghead We’ve been loving the step by step you’ve been doing on your #MapLift journey! #geowebchat

@pinakographos Sep 01, 12:27pm @mappingmashups @vtcraghead Seeing people share the stages of their work is great, and I don’t think it’s done enough #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:28pm If you’re working on #maplift, you can get feedback on CartoTalk: cartotalk.com/index.php?show… or on this Slack get.maptiks.com/gisdevs-on-sla… #geowebchat

@vtcraghead Sep 01, 12:29pm @pinakographos @mappingmashups Yeah, workshopping doesn’t come easily once we’ve adopted the label “professional”. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:30pm @niperkm Good question for #geowebchat. Are there @fixwikimaps style guides we should follow? I’m sure there are @Wikipedia pages somewhere?

@pinakographos Sep 01, 12:32pm @mappingmashups @niperkm @fixwikimaps There’s en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia…, but it seems to be deviated from often. #geowebchat

@pinakographos Sep 01, 12:33pm @mappingmashups @niperkm @fixwikimaps I think it’s useful more for people approaching this with 0 background skills #geowebchat

@fixwikimaps Sep 01, 12:34pm @mappingmashups @niperkm It looks like it’s only there for historical reference though #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:37pm RT @tonyquartararo: @pinakographos @mappingmashups good point. But a “way back machine” for OpenStreetMap ? #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:37pm @tonyquartararo @pinakographos Well, @OpenHistMap is the historical @openstreetmap spin-off project, but it has a long way to go #geowebchat

@pinakographos Sep 01, 12:38pm @tonyquartararo @mappingmashups That would be great and help in some situations, but still great value in custom, focused maps #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:38pm @gfred3rick We’re having a #geowebchat discussion about #maplift right now. Maybe someone will give you feedback there!

@fixwikimaps Sep 01, 12:39pm What do the folks on #geowebchat think?

@johnjcz Sep 01, 12:41pm Does there have to be any sort of consensus around maps that need fixing / fixed maps for #maplift? #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:46pm @johnjcz not really. Its admittedly very subjective. If a map needs help, you’ll know it when you see it! #maplift #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:50pm @johnjcz There’s a lot of maps on wikipedia that need help, so we don’t want to waste #maplift effort on “good enough” maps… #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:51pm RT @geo_will: sometimes you don’t know until you use it. Had a map for climbing in Pakistan, it was wrong, looked lovely though #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:52pm @geo_will Good point: most of #MapLift is about correcting style, not always fixing factual error #geowebchat

@pinakographos Sep 01, 12:53pm @johnjcz If the community disagrees, they might revert to the old map, which is fine. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:53pm @geo_will this gets into the topic of “armchair mapping” which we mentioned in the last #geowebchat. And I think maybe next time’s topic.

@johnjcz Sep 01, 12:54pm @mappingmashups That’s why I was curious. Seems like most wikipedia maps are “good enough” ie factually correct but maybe “ugly” #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 12:55pm @johnjcz Well, “good enough” should also be a function of usability. If it’s factually correct but unreadable, it needs help. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 1:00pm Thanks to everyone who joined today’s #geowebchat! Keep working on your #maplift projects, and check out nacis.org/maplift/ this week!

@johnjcz Sep 01, 1:02pm @mappingmashups Does @fixwikimaps have a “why” for maps that need fixing? Curious to see what people deem “not good enough” #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 1:03pm Next chat will be in one month: October 6th, same time. Topic will be “armchair mapping”! Mapping from the comfort of your home! #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 1:04pm @johnjcz @fixwikimaps fixwikimaps.tumblr.com tries to give a “why” about most of the maps that need fixing. #maplift #geowebchat

@AlbinPCLarsson Sep 01, 1:05pm .@fixwikimaps #maplift #geowebchat are you aware of the Commons map template?

Strongly recommend using it :-)

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 1:09pm @wildlifegisgirl I haven’t done any yet, but we just had a whole #geowebchat about #maplift! #gistribe

@mappingmashups Sep 01, 1:18pm @AlbinPCLarsson @fixwikimaps Is this the template you mean? commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:… #geowebchat

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#geowebchat transcript, 4 August 2015: outdoor mapping

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:00pm Welcome everyone to our monthly #geowebchat! Today we’re talking about “outdoor mapping”. Feel free to join the chat or just follow along!

@TheMissingMaps Aug 04, 12:00pm We’re not outdoor mapping, but here’s a wave for everyone on #GeoWebChat from #MissingMaps London https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLliMmkWsAA5pq2.jpg

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:03pm So if you want to join the #geowebchat, just make sure to include that hashtag in all your tweets. Try tweetchat.com/room/geowebchat for following.

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:04pm So, I certainly had @openstreetmap in mind when I suggested this #geowebchat topic, but we can talk about any kind of outdoor mapping.

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:06pm The @OpenStreetMapUS #mapathon in spring was “great outdoors” themed. Did anyone join? What did you map? #geowebchat wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapathon/…

@bethschechter Aug 04, 12:06pm Hey everyone! I’m really interested in hearing what kind of outdoor mapping activities people have done. #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 04, 12:07pm Did you use @fieldpapers? Did you learn orienteering? Were you using surveying tools? What was the purpose? #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 04, 12:08pm I want to know all the things! I’m also interested in maps about the great outdoors. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:09pm @eleanortutt Did some people choose one tool and stick with it, or did everybody use a lot of those tools during the day? #geowebchat

@eleanortutt Aug 04, 12:10pm @mappingmashups I gave an intro listing those tools & a few more & people picked the one that suited them best. #geowebchat

@eleanortutt Aug 04, 12:12pm I like Field Papers b/c I can convert random people outdoors to mappers by handing them a map to mark up – no apps required #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:13pm @eleanortutt Did the mappers using @fieldpapers trace the maps themselves, or did other people do it? Curious about that with FP #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:14pm That’s also a question for the @TheMissingMaps mappers in London: are you tracing from @fieldpapers or from aerial imagery? #geowebchat

@eleanortutt Aug 04, 12:14pm @mappingmashups In this particular case, only one person used @fieldpapers & he traced himself. #geowebchat

@eleanortutt Aug 04, 12:15pm @mappingmashups But in the past, I’ve handed @fieldpapers to people & told them to just upload a photo whenever they are done. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:18pm .@eleanortutt W/ tools like @fieldpapers & now @mapillary, sometimes the surveyor isn’t necessarily the one to add it to OSM. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:19pm .@eleanortutt I guess that’s also true whenever you’re tracing from others’ GPS traces like w/ @Strava’s slide tool. #geowebchat

@npdoty Aug 04, 12:19pm @fieldpapers I want to use field papers to get a bunch of neighbors to map the locations of all the trees in Oakland. #geowebchat

@eleanortutt Aug 04, 12:20pm Might also make sense to do outdoor mapping with @fieldpapers in fall when weather is nice & then digitize indoors during winter #geowebchat

@ER1CK5ON Aug 04, 12:20pm #geowebchat How I am expermenting with outdoor mapping: mapillary.com/map/im/44QY4Kj…

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:21pm @npdoty @fieldpapers & species too, & maybe even approx height? You can sometimes map trees from aerial, but not much metadata #geowebchat

@TheMapSmith Aug 04, 12:22pm No channel for outdoor mapping (yet), but theres lotsa geo-convos happening @ The Spatial Community Slack thespatialcommunity.com #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:23pm @ER1CK5ON Are you walking or biking in that @mapillary photo? #geowebchat I’ve wondered abt improvising a kind of @mapillary walking vest

@BobGradeck Aug 04, 12:23pm #geowebchat favorite time to map trails is during winter. Easy to see tracks in snow, and no leaves makes for a better GPS signal.

@eleanortutt Aug 04, 12:26pm @BobGradeck But…cold! Rather be inside w/ hot cocoa. Side note: snow (tracks/lack thereof) also helps w/ vacant bldg surveys #geowebchat

@pcrickard Aug 04, 12:26pm There is a #geowebchat now. @Ellevatory

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:26pm RT @npdoty: yeah, I’ve been marking height and diameter (with standardized tags); species would be good for health research #geowebchat

@eleanortutt Aug 04, 12:29pm @mappingmashups @npdoty I learned some munis have staff arborists – worth checking & involving them if they exist where you are. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:30pm @ER1CK5ON @mapillary The action cam is to steady the shots? I can see that, too much bounce, huh? #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:31pm @eleanortutt @npdoty Also worth checking, is there an #Oakland equivalent of @SFUrbanForester? #geowebchat #trees #SF

@bethschechter Aug 04, 12:33pm does anyone have experience with using a geo data collection app that collects both the path your on + easy point collection? #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 04, 12:34pm I’m thinking of the use case of bike mapping. You want to be collecting your path, and then easily switch to adding a point. #geowebchat

@ER1CK5ON Aug 04, 12:34pm #geowebchat I started down the same path ;-) and discovered this: bit.ly/1TEDqIZ and this amzn.to/1IWdWnO

@bethschechter Aug 04, 12:35pm @calimapnerd @calimapnerd cool. i had some trouble using it, but that was years ago. I should try again :) #geowebchat

@ER1CK5ON Aug 04, 12:36pm @mappingmashups @mapillary I dont know yet, have to get out and test it #geowebchat

@TheMapSmith Aug 04, 12:37pm We’ve used ArcGIS Collector with great success over the last few summers to collect field data. Very easy to setup, easy to use. #geowebchat

@ER1CK5ON Aug 04, 12:37pm @BobGradeck good point, fall and early spring good time here in VA too! #geowebchat

@eleanortutt Aug 04, 12:38pm Good to know. Still searching for perfect app. Mentioned OSMAnd at mapathon but haven’t personally used. #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:39pm @bethschechter I think a lot of bike mappers use a voice recorder and then transcribe their notes later using gps + timestamp #geowebchat

@ER1CK5ON Aug 04, 12:40pm @bethschechter my old garmin edge 305 allowed POI collection by hitting a button. It has to have improved since that version #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:41pm Anyone have experience doing outdoor OSM mapping w/ a group & dividing up territory? Curious about this: wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapCraft #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 04, 12:41pm nice! thanks for the advice y’all #geowebchat

@talldave Aug 04, 12:44pm @mappingmashups Shawn Britton does a lot of that meetup.com/Bay-Area-OpenS… #geowebchat

@Ellevatory Aug 04, 12:46pm Thanks, what is the topic of #geowebchat?

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:46pm Is MapCraft the best (or only) tool for making Cake Diagrams? Do most mappers do them by hand or w/ GIS? #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:47pm @Ellevatory @pcrickard We’re talking about outdoor mapping today. #geowebchat

@neogeografen Aug 04, 12:48pm On bike – Mapillary fits for easy&quick collect. surface=XX, lit=yes/no and barrier=cycle_barrier and finding new paths #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:49pm What tools do you wish existed for easier outdoor mapping? What’s missing? How can we make it more effective and fun? #geowebchat

@tim_waters Aug 04, 12:51pm @mappingmashups print out a map, meet mappers, draw on the map. Much easier and interactive and you get to chat with the mappers #geowebchat

@Ellevatory Aug 04, 12:52pm Yo #geowebchat, I’m a regular over at #gistribe, what is your hashtag all about and does it reoccur e.g. weekly?

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:53pm @Ellevatory #geowebchat is monthly on the 1st Tuesday. More info here (plus transcripts) mappingmashups.net/geowebchat/

@Ellevatory Aug 04, 12:53pm This stuff looks really cool – 3D augmented reality map – youtube.com/watch?v=CE1B7t… #geowebchat

@ER1CK5ON Aug 04, 12:55pm @mappingmashups AFFORDABLE GPS Cameras with GPS Voice Tagging, Sunlight Readable Display, Endless Nice Weather??#geowebchat

@Ellevatory Aug 04, 12:55pm Thanks mate! #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 04, 12:56pm @Ellevatory that is totally one of the coolest uses of AR I’ve seen! The @exploratorium should get one of those :) #geowebchat

@skorasaurus Aug 04, 12:56pm for outdoor mapping, I use voice recording w/ osmtracker, + @mapillary although my s5′s camera focus results in blurry photos #geowebchat

@eleanortutt Aug 04, 12:57pm @mappingmashups Random thought: would be cool to get notification when I’m near another mapper – maybe my OSM “friends” #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:57pm Any last thoughts about outdoor mapping for this #geowebchat? Maybe next chat should be about the opposite: armchair mapping?

@eleanortutt Aug 04, 12:58pm @mappingmashups Although maybe by cool I mean creepy – it would depend on my mood. But might help coordinate mapathons. #geowebchat

@ColinReillyNY Aug 04, 12:58pm @mappingmashups for trees there’s @TreeKIT being used by @NYCParks for TreesCount nycgovparks.org/trees/treescou… #geowebchat

@KubaKonczyk Aug 04, 12:59pm @Ellevatory it’s also quite easy to build using old kinect:D #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 12:59pm @eleanortutt That would be cool. OSM definitely needs more enhanced social features. See: brainoff.com/weblog/2012/03… from @mikel #geowebchat

@eleanortutt Aug 04, 12:59pm @mappingmashups Would also be helpful to easily add custom CartoCSS styles to @fieldpapers basemaps #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 1:00pm Thanks all for joining this #geowebchat! Next one will be same time on September 1st. As always I’m seeking guest hosts & topic suggestions!

@MAPTIMELA Aug 04, 1:00pm @mappingmashups I @machikoyasuda want to map trails w/ POC/Native stories like pri.org/stories/2014-1… foresthistory.org/ASPNET/People/… #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 1:00pm The transcript for this #geowebchat about outdoor mapping will be posted at mappingmashups.net/geowebchat in a few days

@eleanortutt Aug 04, 1:01pm @mappingmashups Thanks for hosting! #geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 04, 1:01pm @tvargs no idea! I should look it up though :) #geowebchat thanks for the lead!

@ER1CK5ON Aug 04, 1:02pm Future topic? Unmapped trails, getting them in OSM!!#geowebchat

@bethschechter Aug 04, 1:02pm @mappingmashups thanks for putting this together! So helpful! #geowebchat

@Ellevatory Aug 04, 1:06pm Since the topic is outdoor mapping, it makes me I wonder what kind of mapping is not done outdoor? #geowebchat

@mappingmashups Aug 04, 1:11pm @Ellevatory There’s a concept in #openstreetmap called “armchair mapping” which isn’t done outdoors wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Armchair_… #geowebchat

@Ellevatory Aug 04, 1:19pm Interesting @mappingmashups I did not know of this until Nepal earthquake, it puzzled me ppl mapped but hadn’t been there #geowebchat

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Year two at Stamen

As you may have noticed, I’m not really using this blog as a blog anymore. All my recent blog posts are geowebchat transcripts. If you want to read my occasional blog posts that are not twitter transcripts, I’ve tagged those with “not_geowebchat” for your convenience.

I don’t have time to write blog posts anymore. And today is no different, so I’ll make this short. But I thought I should write something. Apologies if this post reads more like a grab-bag of links and screenshots (FYI, all images are clickable links). For a more structured post, maybe check out my interview at the Geohipster blog.

new map stencil

Last week I hit the two year mark at Stamen Design. (No, I didn’t write a blog post at year one). Those two years have flown past, and this continues to be the most amazing job I’ve ever had. So, what have I been up to?

At Stamen we do data visualization and custom cartography. Clients hire us when they need help understanding some complex dataset, or when they need to communicate data to the public in ways that are compelling, insightful, and beautiful at the same time. I get to explore and process all kinds of geographic data, write code to turn this data into interactive maps, and work with designers to figure out what the maps should look like. Every dataset is unique, and every client’s needs are different; it’s an endless stream of new and exciting puzzles to figure out.

One of my favorite recent examples is our visualization of the impact of climate change on bird migration for the Audubon society. Their scientists used climate models to predict the future migration ranges for hundreds of North American bird species. We took their data and made shareable animated maps that showed how much range these birds would lose and (potentially) gain.


At Stamen we use open data and open source tools to make these visualizations, so I also spend a lot of time working on the basemaps that underly many of our projects, for example updating Stamen’s distinctive “Toner” style.


We also designed brand-new basemaps for CartoDB, an online visualization tool which lets anybody make their own data-rich maps:


Those were just a few of the projects I worked on. Here are a few more: mapping methane leaks for the EDF, a map of ocean protected areas in the US and Canada, mapping the arts landscape in Detroit, visualizing urban water resources around the world.

Many others weren’t public, or haven’t been made public yet. In other cases my contribution is mainly behind the scenes. One of my other favorite Stamen challenges was collecting social media activity to feed into our CaliParks.org website. The algorithms we developed to harvest the social media resulted in some fascinating geographic patterns, but none of these maps made sense to include in the user-facing app.

Screen Shot 2015-07-12 at 12 Jul 6.24.07

With every project there are opportunities to explore, experiment, and create glitches that test the limits of our tools and our designs. These are some of the most interesting outcomes of the Stamen process, and frequently the most fun.


Often it’s possible to make beautiful new maps by building on the work of others, remixing existing maps and tools with a couple of lines of code:


All of these projects involve collaborating closely with a team of brilliant colleagues at Stamen. None of our projects are solo endeavors, and working with great people is one of the special pleasures of being at Stamen. The teams are small, but the list of colleagues is a bit too long to list here. There’s also a lot of pride in carrying on the Stamen reputation established by all the Stamen alumni before us. Some of them I still haven’t met, but nonetheless it feels like we’ve all been working together (just separated a bit in space and time) to build something special and lasting.

When it comes to amazing people I’ve worked with, I do want to mention by name Zach Watson, who we lost tragically and unexpectedly last year. Many other people were much closer to him than I was, but I got to work beside him for my first year at Stamen and learned a lot from him. It’s a small consolation that Stamen helped found the Zachary Watson Memorial Education Fund in his memory.

Teaching and speaking

We are very lucky and privileged to do what we get to do at Stamen, and I’m glad that education and knowledge sharing is a core principle of what we’re all about. In the last two years I’ve co-taught a couple of classes about web mapping at Parisoma, and given guest lectures all across the Bay Area: explaining OpenStreetMap to cartography students at SFSU, talking about digital mapping and the city to Urban Studies students at USF and designers at the Stanford D-School, speaking to art students at UC Berkeley, running a mapping workshop at CCA, and a teaching workshop for the UC Curriculum Institute. Many of those presentations were in conjunction with my education-and-outreach partner-in-crime Beth Schechter. A bit further afield down in L.A., I also gave a talk to design students with Jon Christensen at Cal Poly Pomona.

This is all in addition to the usual conference attending: Association of American Geographers, State of the Map [1] [2] [3], NACIS, FOSS4G [1] [2], and a few that that I haven’t attended before, like DataEDGE and the Computer Supported Collaborative Work (CSCW) conference. Closer to home, I also gave a brown bag research talk at the Wikimedia Foundation in San Francisco.

So, it’s clear that education and outreach is important at Stamen, and this includes hosting OpenStreetMap editathons in the studio once in a while.


Of course one of the biggest educational projects I’ve been lucky enough to be involved with is Maptime, which was just getting started by Beth Schechter and Camille Teicheira right at the same time I started at Stamen. Maptime is a grassroots, beginner-focussed series of mapping meetups that quickly grew well beyond its humble beginnings at Stamen. This was due in no small part to the energy and enthusiasm of Lyzi Diamond who joined as an organizer not long after Maptime’s founding. There are now Maptime chapters in cities all over the world, and it’s been fun to visit a few of them in Vancouver and Chicago on my travels. A lot has been said about Maptime elsewhere (like, for example, from Lyzi herself), so I won’t say much more here. After two years of helping to coordinate Maptime’s growth, and after giving a co-keynote with Beth, Camille, and Lyzi at the CalGIS conference, and after we organized our first Maptime Summit in NYC, I’m starting to ramp down my involvement with Maptime, assured that it’s in very good hands. I’ll still be involved on the Maptime HQ Board of Directors as we go through the process of getting nonprofit status.

The dissertation

Yes, I am also still working on my PhD dissertation at the University of British Columbia. Yes, I will finish it someday. I need to thank my dissertation committee for their patience and indulgence, and also thanks to Stamen for helping me find time here and there to keep making progress. Anyhow, ask me about it some other time.


While I’ve been at Stamen, my dissertation research has had some interesting spin-offs, like the map above which shows every line that ever existed in the OpenStreetMap database. This map won first place in the See-Through Maps exhibit which was part of the Mapping and its Discontents symposium at UC Berkeley. We later showed a version of the map at the Istanbul Design Biennial and I included it in an article I wrote about OpenStreetMap for SPUR’s magazine The Urbanist.


What’s in store the next two years? Plenty of exciting new Stamen projects are in the works, and who knows what other new projects will come through the door that we haven’t even imagined yet. Stay tuned to the Stamen blog, and follow me on Twitter, Flickr, and Pinterest for more frequent updates and teasers like this one:


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